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go to cialis.com. ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee! [ applause ] >> what a great audience we got here tonight. welcome to huckabee from the fox studios from new york city. eight years ago this week, john mohammad and lee malvo spread fear around the nation's capitol going on shooting spree by killing ten innocent people. but the person was the most scared was mohammad's ex-wife and she will join us to tell us why. can we trust china? we're going to ask a ballet
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dancer used as a propaganda tool for the chinese communist regime but he now defected and is the subject of a powerful new movie called mao's last dancer. we're going to be reading your e-mails. [ applause ] >> mr. president, welcome to the huckabee show. i am surprised you are here. >> actually i am a bit surprised to. the they told me they i was going the colbert report. >> the staff brought you here instead. we're going to be talking later in the show about why people aren't going to vote -- what do you think people say they're not going to vote? >> let me say this -- one of the things that makes this country
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so great is that everyone has a right to vote. i wouldn't be what i'm doing today if people didn't get out and vote. >> that is why they aren't going to vote, i don't know. [ laughter ] >> would you able to hang around for a bit and be with us when we do our e-mails from our viewers? >> yes, i can. i look forward to doing. >> it we love to have you. that is very kind to offer your time like that. >> for you, anything. >> you know you are always welcome. we will see you a little while. ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. [ applause ] >> so this week, i think the united nations autoto be sawed off from east side of manhattan and land on whatever country wishes to pay it's up keep. it's letters more than a rat
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hole where we though tax dollars in an institution that has turned into gasoline, wouldn't be enough to power a vespa scooter halfway around a pea. now to allow mahmoud ahmadinejad to stand in new york city and trample the innocent blood of the murdered victims of 9/11 by alleging that the toppling of the twin towers was carried out by the united states government? that is proof positive it's time to turn out the lights and turn off the spiget that funds them. this weekend marks the end to the self-imposed freeze on israeli citizens on expanding their homes on their property. the obama administration has been very vocal and outspoken in demanding that israel stop building bedrooms in their own land. we haven't been nearly so vocal in demanding that iran stop building bombs, nuclear bombs that might be used to annihilate
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israel or the united states. to their credit the u.s. delegation walked out of mahmoud ahmadinejad's speech but that is not enough. insults the integrity of our nation and people. israel has been our friend and we lecture them for where they build their neighborhoods. iran's leadership has built a nuclear facility and they deny the holocaust and all we've done is send them a strongly worded letter. that is it? a strongly worded letter? if other nations are getting something out of the u.n. let them pay for it. we shouldn't pay millions of dollars to provide a platform for unshaven an uninformed idiots to rale against america. that is my view. [ cheers and applause ] >> you can contact me at mike
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huckabee.com, click on the fox feedback section. this week, republicans introduced their pledge to america. i'm sure you seen it. >> in order to create jobs, we need to end the uncertainty for job creators and the spending spree in washington and reform congress itself. government is out of control and we need to begin a new drive for a smaller, less costly and more accountable government in our nation's capital. >> how do the democrats counter the new gop agenda. i think it's time for me to take the hot seat. >> those that are joining me, my challengers, former fellow under hillary clinton jamie floyd and liberal commentator and associate professor, caroline hel man. great to have you both back. [ applause ]
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>> this pledge to america that republicans made, good thing or bad thing? >> you tell us, governor. 1994 all over again. what is new in the pledge to america. >> to be honest with you, i thought it was okay. my own personal opinion they should have been bolder and dealt with the earmarks and forced congress what they have to do to live within its means. and term limits for members of congress in the pledge to america and said they are not going to spend the rest of their lives. >> was eight wise strategy to have the pledge for america at this time when republicans are really poised to do very well in the mid terms, this gives democrats something to attack and the tea party something to attack as well. >> which has already started to happen. it's necessary in the sense we're seeing a republican landslide but when you look at polling, it's the
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anti-incumbency sentiment. republicans have a divided tend with the tea party, more radical conservative and sometimes nutty candidates. they have to pull them back in, but not maybe what they hope it will do in november. >> i'm not sure some of the tea party candidates are nutty. they can't be any nuttier than the people we have in there now. >> paladino wants to open poor houses. we're going way back in time with some of these candidates and remedies. >> with paladino, he a business guy. i think sometimes he'll make a statement and taken out of context and exaggerated. i've come to the conclusion he make a bold good governor for new york. >> with we talk tea party who isn't an official party right now at all, but it's concerning
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that the tea party threatens the republican party as a whole. democrats can sit back and watch the tea party do real damage to the grand ole party, your party. >> on that count jamie, i have to say there is a lot of truth what you are saying. if they split the republicans vote, it empowers the democrats. some people are going to be left in by default because they won't get a majority of votes but they will win with 38% but the vote could split. i, personally, i'm appalled by lisa and mike castle and charlie crist when they couldn't get the support of the party, they decided to go and create their own team and play outside the stadium grounds. i find that appalling. >> at the same time you and i have talked about importance of civil dialogue.
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even though we disagree and we almost always do, importance of having a civil dialogue, one that is all about the country we agree we all love. not a lot of shouting and disagreement but a dialogue that is within the confines of democracy. a lot of these races have already become downright ugly and not about the candidates but personal attacks, not about policies or ideas. >> don't you think some of that is driven by some of the dissidents like some people that didn't win. they say the people ought to have a voice, they did have a choice, she lost. i would say get cardboard boxes and exit your office and the stage. it's over. >> that would be a really smart shot for the republicans. that is the challenge for the party right now. it's bringing everyone into the same tent in order to take advantage of this victory in
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november. it's not people loving republicans, it's people hating incumbents. that can only benefit republicans, but your party is not doing the best job bringing everybody into the at the point. i think it's because you are defending paladino. this is man that has been around pornography e-mails. if he were in my party -- >> he should go to congress if he has done that. [ laughter ] >> good thing in washington and isn't the tea party about precisely the opposite. >> i think sometimes experience is a good thing. if people use experience in a positive way. if experience has got into three trillion dollars of debt, if they spend money that absolutely is going to bankrupt the future of this country, i'm not sure experience is what we need. i would love to have inexperience if it would change
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some of these policies. >> let me put you on the hot seat, this notion we would want to extend it for the top 2 percent of tax cuts where these folks have increased 8%. they don't need it. it's not going to help with the deficit or help stimulate the economy. why sit the republicans are pushing so hard during a time it's not going to help the country? >> if we were to impose those tax increases on the top 2% it's all $14 billion, it will basically run the federal government for nine days. so when people say, this is going to make a difference, it's not going make a difference except -- >> billion dollar price tag we can't afford. >> i would say the worst thing is raise taxes on anybody, even ui guys. i wouldn't do that. jamie, caroline, thank you for being here. [ applause ] >> he terrorized the nation's
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capitol. john allen mohammad terrified his ex-wife. mildred tells her gripping story when we come back. [ applause ] well-being. we're all striving for it. purina cat chow helps you nurture it in your cat with a full family of excellent nutrition and helpful resources. purina cat chow. share a better life.
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for three weeks in october of 2002, the people of the metropolitan area of washington, d.c. lived in fear. >> a bloody rampage outside our nation's capitol. >> they are believed to be linked and the killer is still at large. >> they are having a difficult time to put a face on these crimes. >> it gives me chills. >> the only thing they know for sure is that the shooter is deadly accurate.
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>> it would seem that no one is safe what they thought was a single gunman what they called the d.c. sniper killing people in random in public places like parking lots, sidewalks and gas stations. the victims ranging in ages and backgrounds from a 72-year-old retired handyman to a 13-year-old student. >> stepping over the line, shooting a kid. >> in the end, ten people were killed and three were wounded. after initial tips, investigators focused their search on a white van or box truck. clues led police to a blue 1990 chevy caprice. >> we've all experienced anxiety but in the end, resiliency has won out. >> john allen mohammad and his partner 17-year-old teenager
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lee malvo were charged with the shooting. mohammad was sentenced to the death penalty and executed in november of 2009. malvo is serving six consecutive life sentences. >> mohammad's ex-wife mildred feared her ex-husband and writes about her experiences in her book "scared silent." please welcome mildred mohammad. [ applause ] >> did you have any idea at all that your husband was capable of something so heinous as this? >> no, my ex-husband, i did not even think he could do anything like this. we were divorced october 6 of 2000 so the shootings begin in october of 2002. >> this was already two years after your divorce was final? >> yes. >> but still, you never saw anything in his behavior or actions that prompted you to think, this guy could be really dangerous? >> his behavior towards he was
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dangerous. i wasn't physically abused, i was mentally, economically stalked but these offenses unfortunately are not serious enough where law enforcement could do anything about it. >> was he always this way? >> no he wasn't. when he came back home from desert storm he was a different man. he was not debriefed nor was he counseled when he came back. he was diagnosed with ptsd but did not receive treatment for it. >> when he came back from the war, you noticed a stark difference in his attitude and his behavior toward you, and i guess toward other people. >> soldiers that come back, we're the first ones to notice this type of behavior if they want to make a career in the military, it is difficult for us to say something to authorities
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because it's going to be a stain on his record. that anger will turn toward the dependents so we have no one to go to. >> what were some of the signs when he came back from desert storm that kind made you think this guy is different. something is going on? >> before he left he was a jovial person. he was the life of the party. when he got back he was so depressed. he was always sad. he would sit in the corner and ponder and look up at the ceiling. that wasn't the john that left. i was looking for person but he never came back. >> when we come back, i want to talk about what happened that led up to his finally being uncovered and arrested and ultimately executed as the d.c. sniper. we'll be back with mildred mohammad. stay with us. expresso tampers, filters.
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>> we're back with mildred mohammad, ex-wife of the d.c. sniper, it was eight years ago this week. when she is shootings started, did you think it was something that was completely unrelated to you? >> i did. for two years i had been running for my life. unfortunately the police department in washington state did not put john's name in the national center of information which when the police stop you they run your i.d. because his name back clean they didn't have any reason to arrest him. that was why i was in fear for my life because he had told me, you have become my enemy and i will kill you.
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>> you thought he was after you, but you didn't link it to the d.c. sniper. later the authorities said that he was after you. >> right. >> he was using these other shootings if one day he shot you they would think you were a random victim of this violence going on? >> correct. then he would come in take custody of the children and drive away. >> so carefully thought through plot on john's part? >> yes, sir. >> i wanted you to tell me the day that he had been arrested for this? >> october 23rd, atf knocked on my door and they asked me when is the last time you have seen john mohammad. i said that was september 5th at an emergency custody hearing in washington state. we need for you to come to down to the police station. i say why do you want me to go in? i think we have john there and you want me to identify him?
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i told you he is going to kill me. he is going to to snap my neck and i'm not going. eventually they convinced me to go. once we got there, they did questions and answers with me. f.b.i. says, we're going to name your ex-husband as the sniper. i don't eastern know my way around. they said, do you think he would do something like that? i raised my hand, yes, why would you think that? he said while we were watching the movie that i could take a small city and terrorize it and it would be a group of people and it would only be me. >> he told you that is what he was going to do? >> yes, sir. >> there were people that later blamed you for the d.c. sniper killings, if it hadn't been for
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her, he wouldn't have done all this stuff. that must have been a gut punch to hear people say those things. >> it was a gut punch but i had to realize that people were angry. because they could not get to john, their anger had to be directed at somebody so it was me. the only people i was really concerned about was my children and i had to protect them from the harsh words that were being spoken. >> you testified at lee malvo's trial, the young man that had been captured or brainwashed by john. why did you testify for the defense at his trial? >> because my children came to me and said, mommy, we need you to help lee because if it wasn't for dad, he wouldn't be there. they put him on this to try to hurt you and he is our friend. we need you to help him. that is when i called his
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attorney. i said what can i do to help him. >> when your ex-husband was executed october of last year, what did you feel that day? >> nothing. >> nothing at all? >> i felt compassion for my children because regardless of anybody else says and regardless of what he did, he is their father. i told them that regardless of whom or what, you can still love him and pray for him and you can do what you need to do because he is your dad. once the execution took place they went in three different directions, my son went in the living roommate, my daughter was crying on the cell with my other daughter because they didn't get a chance to talk to him. we tried to get them connected to him, but his attorney said that he would not talk to them
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because he would have to answer the one question he was not prepared to answer and that was why. >> i want to say not just thanks for coming on, but your book, very powerful portrayal of what happens not just in your life but in many domestic violence situations and sometimes the violence is verbal. you are doing work and we have the website on the screen how to be in touch with you. if they seen signs of post-traumatic stress syndrome or signs that something has gone wrong, they need to get help. >> yes, they do. they need to get it fast. >> what a wonderful courageous story you've told us here today. [ applause ] >> we have asked you to tell us why you won't vote. boy, have you responded. we got over 2,000 e-mails from people who don't even plan on heading to the polls this
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lawmakers in the house are preparing to take another crack at a bill that has ignited a political firestorm. it's aimed at providing health care for those that got sick after working on the 9/11 rescue operation. it's due for another vote next week. many republicans consider eight ruse by the democrats to cover the rising health care costs. >> the clock is ticking for democrats from middle east peace talks from clapping. palestinian president insists he will walk out of the talks if issues don't extend the freeze. hillary clinton have met with mahmoud abbas to talk about the
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issue. for millions, it's heard up to 600 radio stations for the huckabee report. go to our website and click on the huckabee report. >> one of most fundamental rights as u.s. citizens is the right to vote. with the critical election just weeks away, many americans say they don't intend to vote. last week we read some of the reasons and they range from comparing candidates to their ex-wives to bailing out on jury duty. since then we have received thousands of even more messages telling us why you won't vote. our producer is here to read
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some of those e-mails. why are not people voting this year? >> bill from connecticut, i'm not voting because american politic have moved to the extreme, it's either socialist obama or others, how about some moderates? >> the way to fix it is go vote. one thing i would suggest, if you absolutely say there is nobody worth voting for, you must believe you would be better than either of the parties. so sign up, give them the ballot and run for office. >> another bill writes, it doesn't make a difference if i vote or not. there is so much cheating going on. >> anybody that is guilty of voter fraud should pay a stiff penalty because it's stealing the fundamental right of another american. the worst thing we can do is just quit playing the game at all. the best way to overcome
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cheaters is have a not legislator people playing by the rules. you told us why you weren't voting. we did hear from you that said why you were. why are some of the people saying they will vote. >> i vote to honor the brave men and women that died serving this wonderful country. steve from virginia writes, bad politicians are sent to washington by good people that don't vote. >> i couldn't agree more, especially for no other reason than to honor the men and women in uniform who literally put their lives on the line, many have died to give us the right to vote. to not vote is an insult to the great men and women who guarantee our freedom. >> we have a person in the audience that kaylee has been talking with, ken, i understand you are going to be voting. why is it so important for you to vote? >> for one reason, i think it's
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my responsibility to vote. number two, i think it's very important this time around that we replace a lot of the obama folks that are ruining this country. [ applause ] >> the i hear that music again. mr. president, long time, no see. you did stay around. >> i did. >> i don't know if you heard what deny had to say that he is going to vote, he thinks he needs to get some of the folks around there out of there. what do you think about that? >> let me say this, remember at the top of the show, i think everyone should get out and vote. after hearing some of those e-mail responses and ken's reply i changed my mind. >> you did? so now you don't think they should. >> no, sir.
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>> because if they do, they might send is some of your friends home. >> november can get a little cold. stay home and order a pizza and watch some some tv or something. >> that is not exactly advice i would give. mr. presidential you are always welcome to the fox news channel. ladies and gentlemen, president barack obama. [ applause ] >> coming up, living and breathing truth of the american dream. a man that was born in communist china but risked his life to a life of freedom. that is coming up next. [ applause ] , but now, to get it really cooking, you need a little website development. some transparent reporting, so you know it's working. online ads and 1-on-1 marketing consultation.
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( bells toing ) ( all cheering ) ha ha ha! announr: introducing the kohler karbon faucet. imagine for a moment that you are a young child and sitting at your desk at school. all of a sudden, men from the federal government come into your classroom and select you to be a propaganda tool for your country. you have to leave, you have to leave your parents, you leave your friends and neighborhood. that really happened to my next guest who was trained by the chinese government to become a dancer and eventually defected to the united states. he now lives in australia with his family. his best-selling book, mao's last dancer has been turned into a film of the same name. i want you to see a little clip.
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[ speaking a foreign language ] i wanted you to know the movie is in english. it is powerful and gripping, some movies are entertaining but this one is informative and challenging. i want you to meet the person about whom the movie was made, lee . >> this movie really got to me. because i can't imagine being a little boy sitting in a classroom one day and suddenly the government comes and gets me and takes me from my family. tell me about the day and that
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it happened. >> it was amazing. i was 11:00 and i was in the middle of the wintertime. the temperature could get down 18 degrees below zero. then our teacher told us to read chairman mao's writings ten times in a row. >> it was unbelievable brainwashed. mao was our god. that was supposed to keep us warm that day to read mao. so in the middle of the reading, four men came into the classroom and they were introduced to us as cultural advisors and they were to study ballet. they asked all of us to sing songs. as we were singing, they walk
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down the aisles and look at each person's faces to get an idea of our body shape through our snow clothes. they passed me by. as we show on the film, the teacher was tapped on the shoulder, last man from beijing what about that one. they pointed at me. that moment changed my entire life. changed my fate. >> when they selected you like that, your family didn't have much of a say. we would like you to sign papers basically you were owned by the state? >> out of the meetings, i was one of 44 kids chosen. do i remember when they said your son was accepted. i was too scared to leave my parents. i was 11. never left my hometown before.
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my mother said to me, grab a hold of it. i know you have secret dreams and make them come true. she knew that was one chance in my life could lead me to a better life. >> it's so hard for a lot of americans to understand because we're brought up with the idea that we are individuals and we answer to god, not a government. our dreams ought to come from him and our own soul and not the government. as you grew up, if you had a chance to do something, it was because the government came and picked you to be a winner, not a loser. it's scary to think about when government gets that big. >> virtually every aspect of our lives were controlled by the chinese government, where you were born where you had to live the rest of your lives, where you work and what kind of work you do for the rest of your lives and who you are actually going to marry. so if you fell in love with
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somebody, you had to go to mentor, could i approach that girl before you could really go there. it's totally insane. >> not only is there a movie but a best-selling book upon which the movie is based that li has written. we're going to come back. i want to talk more with li about what he experienced as a child, what china like now? is there something we ought to think about before we sell our last dollar bill to the chinese government. we'll be right back. [ applause ] [ male announcer ] fact -- no pain medicinis proven to last longer than advil. not tylenol. notleve. nothing lasts longer than advil. pain rief that lasts. one more reason to make advil your #1 choice. you know, if we had let fedex office pri our presentation, they could have shipped it too.
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we're back with li cunxin. you were trained in ballet but
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you were able to come to america and experience the first opportunity as one of the cultural exchange. what were your first impressions of america when you came? >> it was a complete shock. the image of the western world, america, when i grew up in china was virtually led me to believe that america was the property stricken society. people lived in the dark ages. we live the most glorious life america. so coming to america, the freedom people enjoyed, everything was completely new. >> did you want a taste of that or were you afraid of it? >> i was afraid. i questioned myself. is this a big show. >> you thought it was propaganda? >> i thought it was propaganda and gradually, i realized, these incredible buildings -- at that
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moment i started questioning my education back in china. the thought came up and making my own judgment. then i really thought what we are said to believe. >> one of your stories, the night you decided you were going to defect. it got intense, even involving then vice president george bush, president 41 because in your opinion houston, texas. what was the tipping pointed, i'm going to defect and come to america and make this home? >> well, i fell in love for the first time to this beautiful american girl called elizabeth. she was similar to my age and we just absolutely love each other. i couldn't leave her to go back to china. the thought of leaving her just killed me. luckily this wonderful
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immigration lawyer, one of highly respected lawyers in america. he went out of his way when high was held that night. >> you were xard by your own government at the embassy or consulate. >> four guards locked me up in a dark room. >> what were they telling you, they were trying to keep from you defecting? >> they played a lot of scare tactics. they said, number one you could be killed. and number two, your family in china would be in trouble. that is the worst thing that could happen, not my own life but thinking my parents, my beloved mom and father could be in trouble because of me. i want to help them not adding more trouble into theirs lives. >> there has been a lot of changes in china over the past 25 years, i am one of those guys are we selling out too much of
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america to the chinese. how do you feel about that. are we trusting them too much even now? >> governor, i think the issue for me what bothers me is about how can america get off the addiction to debt. that is the issue. for so many years, we have lived on borrowed money, to live a lavish style but you can't sustain that. rather than blame japan or china but we have to be disciplined. we have to power to say, stop that. we're going to live within our means. i just think it's really important for the two great nations, america and china to work hand in hand. work together to solve the solutions and be able to form a partnership. i think the world will really benefit from that. >> you may have said it clearly but america has to stop its
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overwhelming desire to have things with someone else's money, in this case the chinese which pretty much own a lot of our economy right now? >> sadly so. the chinese government can put more of their own money back into their own economy to have better infrastructure projects for long term, in the health care and medical care -- all of these things are lacking back there. people don't invest money in china because they are afraid of their own health care is to get sick because there is no such thing there. >> there is a lot more to the story and we obviously won't be able to get to it all. li, thank you so much. i'll tell you how to get to the rest of it. get the book and go see the movie -- mao's last dancer. is the american dream dead or
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tonight you heard the stirring story of a man who risks everything to escape communism and live free. we listened to people who don't think voting matters. abc news, yahoo poll this week sadly reports that only half of americans believe the american dream is still alive. i don't share their pessimism. for those who push the gloom and doom buttons each day, take a good look around. the very fact that there is a serious political up rising in america right now is not a reason to be discouraged, its reason to be encouraged. of our nation was brilliantly designed to self-correct and that is exactly what she is doing. an upheaval in the congressional and senate seats this election is just perfectly what will get us back on course. by the way, if you like obama care and you like the stimulus, if you like the bailouts of the car and insurance companies and
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if you like the direction of spending and et, pen vote for the democrats, but if you don't, vote them out. across the board, because nothing will more dramatically and swiftly get congress working for us again than that. you know, i think the american dream is very much alive. for some people, it's going through some pain and healing, but this is an election that might just prove that the people still do rule this nation. i disable the panic button the dashboard of my american mobile and look through the windshield and take a look at november 2nd and see it as an opportunity to speak loudly with your boot and offer a swift kick in the behind of officials that forgot they the went to washington. give somebody a chance because they might do better. don't give up

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